Why $0.78 on the dollar is probably still a high estimate of women’s compensation

annetaintoryouropinionWe’re definitely underpaid, ladies, considering the extra layer of bull$h!t we have to deal with in the course of just doing our jobs.  Read on for a fascinating illustration of the costs of doing business when you have a female name and internet profile.

Some of us have been having fun on the interwebs recently mocking Donald Trump’s comment Tuesday night that the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Hillary Clinton, “The only card she has is the woman’s card; she’s got nothing else going.  And frankly, if Hillary Clinton were a man, I don’t think she’d get 5% of the vote. … The beautiful thing is, women don’t like her, OK, and look how well I did with women tonight!”  Check out the hashtag #womancard on Twitter–who says feminists have no sense of humor?  A lot of the #womancard Tweets, my own included, are about money and women’s access to it.

So it was kind of perfect that I first stumbled upon this series of tweets yesterday, which were then turned into a blog post by Kelly J. Baker, professional writer and recovering academic historian, on “The Men Who Email Me.”  In the spirit of Rebecca Solnit’s essay “Men Explain Things to Me,” Baker writes about the consequences of being an unaffiliated writer on the internets.

Long story short, she fields emails from men who think she desperately needs to hear their point of view, or to help them get their essays published.  Because of course, they’re all unrecognized geniuses, and who the heck does she think she is, anyway?  And this represents a drag on her time and energy that represent a hidden cost of being an intellectual woman in public.  Baker writes,

The men who email me tell me that I’m wrong. I’ve made the wrong argument. I’ve missed the essential issue or the salient details. I’ve made errors and mistakes. I didn’t use data. I used too much data. They assert that gender is not as big of an issue as I make it out to be or that I don’t realize how hard it is to be a man. They assert that I can never be anything but wrong.

The men who email me claim that I don’t know anything about higher education, religious studies, labor, gender, or any other topic I’ve ever written an essay about. They ignore my credentials in favor of assuming my incompetency. “You didn’t possibly think this through,” they type. They don’t care that I have, but just assume that I haven’t. If competency appears out of reach, expertise becomes impossible.

After describing the different varieties of irritating email she receives from complete strangers who only want to mansplain something or ask her for a favor (or shockingly, sometimes both), she concludes with something I find even more outrageous than insulting someone while you’re also asking her to work for you for free:

The men who email me are not anonymous. They use their personal or work email. They gladly offer their names, their job titles, and their sense of entitlement. They can’t imagine that I would refuse to listen to them. It is just an email, just a comment, just a criticism, or just a threat. What’s my problem?

The men who email me take up space in my inbox. They take up space in my head. They take up my time. What amazes me is that these men think that I owe them time, attention, and effort because they read something I wrote. I don’t owe them anything, but I seem to be the only one who knows that. These men continue to believe that I deserve their opinions. I want them to learn to keep their opinions to themselves.

Baker’s story exposes not just the hidden time and psychic costs of being an online writer, but also the ways in which her male correspondents believe that correcting her is not only acceptable, they of the dubious credentials and expertise, but part of their jobs!”  Yes, they’re so confident of the righteousness of their intervention that they do it through their work accounts and sign their own names.  Because of course they’re important!  Of course their opinions must be attended!

They see it as in their job description to school women writing on the internet.

For the record, I get emails too as a result of this non peer-reviewed blog on the World Wide Timewasting Web.  I also get requests from correspondents–usually they’re looking for advice about graduate school, or a scholarly issue I have raised on the blog, or (more often) they’re requests from current graduate students or faculty in abusive departments who are looking for some advice and a shoulder to lean on.  I answer all of them, because 1) they’re always respectful, and 2) I see it as part of my job as a historian with a university position–it’s part of this blog’s public outreach and service to the profession at the same time.

And you know what else my correspondents have in common?  They’re overwhelmingly women.  I wonder if there’s a connection between sex and asking politely for help versus lecturing condescendingly?  Could be!

10 thoughts on “Why $0.78 on the dollar is probably still a high estimate of women’s compensation

    • Yes. I was going to write about that, but then Kelly Baker wrote her blog post about her experiences! (Which I think are more relevant for academic women. At least, I hope the rest of you don’t get Tweets threatening or hoping for your rape and/or murder.)


  1. Part of being a feminist these days, I think, now that the word doesn’t imply solidarity or sisterhood (I’m not sure if it ever did, not being old enough), is seeing a pattern in recurrent behaviors. I’m starting to see a pattern in this post and elsewhere:
    1. Person writing under a female-sounding byline writes something interesting and novel.
    2. Dude reads it.
    3. Dude feels uncomfortable or provoked.
    4. Dude reacts. If he thinks he’s a nice guy, he doesn’t type a rape or murder threat, but he DOES think the writer of #1 owes him comfort. That’s what a breast is for, amirite? The writer has to stop what she’s doing and make him feel better.

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    • There is a lot of care work involved in being a woman that doesn’t seem to be a part of men’s job descriptions (paid or unpaid positions)!


  2. I have chipped in money to the Clinton campaign when I can — making me one of those imaginary small donors Everyone Agrees Clinton doesn’t have. Or perhaps I’m really a Super PAC! (TM) I like that thought, though for a Super PAC I seem to be a tad underpaid.
    But to the point of my story: To my delight, Clinton’s campaign has responded by offering an official Hillary campaign Woman Card. Tomorrow is payday, and I think it might be worth another of those imaginary small donations to receive one.
    I doubt, alas, that she receives royalties from the Hillary Clinton action figure I bought, but I couldn’t resist the blue pantsuit and pearls (not to mention the sale price). I can put it beside my Xena action figures, once I figure out where I put them after the move. For now she’s traveling with me in my backpack. Travels with my future president. Heh!


    • Thanks for the tip! I’m going to look into making a donation to her today too. I haven’t given this season–was waiting for the general, but I guess that’s what we’re in now that the BS campaign is Berning 1/3 of its paid staff.

      I think a Woman Card would be excellent office or door decor for me.


  3. FYI, this just in about the online (Twitter, phone calls, emails) antisemitic abuse she’s getting since writing a profile of Melania Trump:

    “This is not a heavily critical article. There is nothing in it that is untrue,” Ioffe said. “If this is how Trump supporters swing into action what happens when the press looks into corrupt dealings, for example, or is critical of his policies?”

    Ioffe worked as a reporter in Moscow for three years. During this period, she experienced antisemitism and witnessed colleagues receive bouquets of funeral flowers at work. But never as a journalist working in the United States.

    “The irony of this is that today, when I was getting all of this horrible antisemitic shit that I’ve only ever seen in Russia, I was reminded that 26 years ago today my family came to the US from Russia. We left Russia because we were fleeing antisemitism,” Ioffe said. “It’s been a rude shock for everyone.”


  4. “Women who work in England today share an experience with female wage earners seven centuries ago: they take home only about three- quarters the wages earned by men. In the 1360s, lvornen earned 71 percent of male wages; today, they earn about 75 percent.” Judith Bennett, _History Matters_, 82


  5. I ran across your blog just a few days ago so please pardon the late (by internet standards) reply.

    Something like the subject of this post has been rattling around in my head for a while now. A kind of nagging concern that, as a straight white dude, my input will only add to the noise rather than be useful.

    “But I’m a nice guy,” I think. “People will value my opinion and interaction.” Well, clearly these mansplainers think they’re nice guys, too. So then I’m back to square one.

    I don’t feel silenced or anything like that and I’m not looking for sympathy. This kind of post makes clear that there are plenty of guys out there foisting their opinions on everyone else – especially women.

    Did guys feel the need to chime in on every little thing back in the day, with letters to newspapers or other publications? Or has it become more of an issue with more high-visibility women and/or the internet?


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